tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741412946805763929.post4232752879993596220..comments2024-03-29T02:27:35.932-07:00Comments on Shoreline Area News: Op-Ed: Paine Field expansion impacts Shoreline and North King CountyCarl Dinsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03741982015985286521noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741412946805763929.post-92199767861912753902018-08-14T22:20:22.745-07:002018-08-14T22:20:22.745-07:00Anonymous - Burien and Normandy Park fought agains...Anonymous - Burien and Normandy Park fought against an adding a runway to a commercial airport that had been established and operating as a commercial airport for more than 50 years. That is very different than unilaterally tossing out a growth planning agreement and converting a general aviation facility into a commercial airport. Terry Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05364250953427364325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741412946805763929.post-3666850593664006142018-08-14T22:09:53.414-07:002018-08-14T22:09:53.414-07:00Thank you Marc for reminding people about the Plan...Thank you Marc for reminding people about the Planning Commission agreement that led to the development of homes, apartments, communities, schools and neighborhoods in the Paine Field area. Sadly, the county and airlines only see dollar signs and have ignored the fact that these neighborhoods do not have the infrastructure to support a commercial airport. Forgotten are those of us taxpayers/homeowners whose property values, and enjoyment of our homes, will decline as a result of that broken promise. Terry Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05364250953427364325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741412946805763929.post-52890653681454879442018-08-14T21:35:00.860-07:002018-08-14T21:35:00.860-07:001. Since the original proposal, the airlines inter...1. Since the original proposal, the airlines interested have moved to quieter planes. This is part of the reason why the FAA is reviewing it again. These planes aren't the rust buckets that many of us grew up hearing (I lived near JFK in the 60s). Alaska and United Airlines plan to use Embraer 175s, which are extremely quiet; for Southwest Airlines, Boeing 737s. The noisy planes are the Dreamlifters that fly low at 2-3 a.m. bringing Dreamliner parts in.<br />2. The flight paths are under the purview of the FAA and extend for about 10 miles around the airport. The runways are north/south oriented, putting the traffic patterns very close to Sea-Tac and Boeing Field…it's called the "string of pearls"…Sea-Tac’s pattern has been extended to Shoreline due to it being near capacity. Sea-Tac expects to max out in 7-8 years.<br />3. The new commercial air activity will only be 0.4% of what runs at Paine already. Boeing is accounts for about 5% (jets), while general aviation 95%-which IMO is the noisiest, I live near there and they're the ones I hear the loudest!<br />4. Paine Field’s main runway is operating at about 30% of capacity. However, developable land is problematic due to the terrain and wetlands issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741412946805763929.post-14678258865142917322018-08-13T12:11:05.544-07:002018-08-13T12:11:05.544-07:00Suck it up Mukilteo. Burien/Normandy Park fought ...Suck it up Mukilteo. Burien/Normandy Park fought the 3rd runway at Sea-Tac to no avail. Shoreline is in the flight path for all the North to South landings at Sea-Tac. Paine Field should be open to commercial flights - if you think you should be excused from sharing the burden of overall growth in the country, think again. And then get those noise-cancelling headphones that the rest of us use.(those of you who enjoy your small private planes, please know we on the ground hear them!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5741412946805763929.post-86220409181678767002018-08-13T10:19:47.307-07:002018-08-13T10:19:47.307-07:00Thanks Marc for this information. I've been w...Thanks Marc for this information. I've been woken up a couple of nights by noisy planes flying over (open windows) in the middle of the night. I've often idly wondered if I could find out why a particular plane is so noisy and why some are noisier than others. Some sound like they are about to land in Shoreline. Since the SeaTac flights come overhead it seems as though Paine Field flights would need to go the other direction.Tracy Tallmannoreply@blogger.com